Are kingdoms of men playable anymore?

Kingdoms of men (and Rhordia) didn’t see much in the way of exciting updates in Clash of Kings 2025. They gained an amazing order, but it is heavily restricted, so none of the best targets for it can use it. Looking at other human armies, there are others that have clearly gained a lot more.

This mindset seems to have hit several of the traditionally KoM players in my local community too. Over the last years, one by one, we have dropped KoM for other armies. This year, even the most fervent KoM players went for other armies for Kings of Oslo GT, and I understand why. KoM has poor healing, bad alpha strike ability, fairly bad shooting, lots of mediocre to bad infantry, little in the ways of auras or buffing units, mediocre grinding, no efficient duelists and not a lot of pathfinder. Pick almost any unit, and another army will have the same, just better for a marginal cost increase. But is there still some life in the old girl?

KoM / Rhordia do still have some fairly unique good units. I think there still are some archetype list that can do well, and that can do something that the other human armies are not capable / as good at.

Flying circus

One example may be the flying circus. KoM beast cavalry actually hits harder than Elohi and Forsaken, and they also have access to cheap flying heroes galore. Where Basilea pays 310pts for a dragon, KoM gets a guy with only 3 less attacks for 120pts less. Yes, the dragon is a lot better, it can shoot, it can survive much more, but when they hit a flank, 14 attacks at CS3 is often good enough, and you have 120pts to spend on something else.

A first draft of a flying circus list. It is critical to get good charges with such a list, and you need time to get your generals into flanks, so I added a big firepower component. The riflemen are bad in most lists, but in this particular one, I think they can possibly do well. And think about that time you can shoot some big def 5+ regenerating monster / unit with 20 piercing 3 attacks! The list presents a big shooty center, with three groups of fliers ready to pounce on any weakness presented. Quick combat individuals would suck, but that is a general issue for KoM. It can very probably be tuned more, but I like it as a general concept. (although looks kinda filthy for a proper KoM player. Where are the pretty hordes of infantry?) Is it better than the Basilean version, with 3x elohi, 3x phoenix, 2x dragon and Julius? Maybe not, but you do have 4 more drops, more shooting, and I think it should be able to compete on about the same level. Since you play KoM and not filthy Basilea, you win on moral grounds anyways.

Present pikes!

Infantry heavy lists are going to struggle competing against the option of just using Basilea / brothermark rules instead, as they have much better access to healing, chaff, support units, and in general has better infantry units. Trying to shoot away Basilea infantry with iron resolve 1-3, triple phoenix support, radiance of life and other good healing support is a lot more frustrating than shooting away def 4 pikemen with no heal.

However, it is fairly unique for KoM / Rhordia to have units with both phalanx and ensnare. Phalanx is good now, and with ensnare on top, enemy cav / fliers just can’t get through your front (unless you have taken a lot of shooting damage before they got there). Pike regiments are also one of the units that benefit the most from ferocious charge order, with 15 attacks that suddenly hit on 3s.

Pikes do have a massive weakness though. They are def 4+, so they just die to shooting. Large infantry are also not really worried about them, and generally punch their way through easily enough. Abyssals with their new speed 9 large infantry berserkers will laugh their way through your pikemen.

Pike heavy list are an archetype I tried to play last year. I did fine with it, but it certainly did not feel like more than a mediocre list. I had several different ideas, and tried both a lot of hordes and a lot of regiments and something in between. I think it is probably best to not lean too heavily into the pikes, and rather use them as a smaller part of the list, just an anvil for the rest of your list to lean on.

For a pike-focussed archetype, I think Rhordia edges ahead of KoM because of a lot of rally sources and the dogs of war units, although I miss the 60pts ballistas, and there is something there with giants + pikes that looks somewhat promising. Maybe something like this for KoM:

Stop the enemy on your pikes and slam their flank with giants and griffons. The KoM giant is probably the worst giant in the game, but there might be something here? I do think trident realms play this style a lot better though. Ensnaring giant, and he is cheaper? Droool. Although the four fliers do give the KoM version some extra options. This list certainly doesn’t lack for crushing strength at least.

As for Rhordia, they have also gained some small buffs, like Duke Hetronburg gaining +2 attacks, making him a usable combat character. With his +2 rally to cavalry, both knights and maybe even mounted scouts suddenly look somewhat playable. Compared to the flying circus, it is much harder to make a list that just looks really good. And that is probably not so strange, as infantry is just much harder to play than a speed 10 army. I think the army needs some shooting, so other armies can’t just kite you forever. You also need some speedy units, so you don’t get automatically alpha struck by anything speed 6+. The battle shrine feels like a good inclusion for the rally +2, which takes those normally fairly weak regiment nerve values into really good value for the points. I feel confident that 15/17, phalanx, ensnare pike regiments for 120pts are good. There is a 150pts tax there, but the shrine is a decent shooter and close combat unit, so it is not a total waste. Honour guard are also still good, and could form the hitting power part of an otherwise defensive list.

Mad lad Chariots?

Human chariots are actually looking allright. Speed 9, TC2, brutal, and adds some light shooting. They are one of the cheapest horde unlocks, at only +5pts compared to shieldwall, they certainly bring a lot more to the table. Regiments of chariots can also be hit with ferocious charge, and do not get -1 to hit from phalanx, nor trigger slayer or rampage. They are slightly worse than goblin fleebag chariots, who get vicious for only +5pts (a common KoM issue, being bland, but not paying proportionally less for their units). Of the other human armies, only Basilea has chariots. Sisterhood chariots gain +1 nerve, iron resolve, vicious and more attacks, but at a pretty hefty additional price, costing closer to knight price. I think there might be some decent MSU builds taking advantage of chariots. Or maybe a huge horde of fanatics hiding behind a screening line of chariots to save them from enemy shooting?

A very rough draft of the idea. There might be some merit here, you have a fast skirmish screen that will block a lot of shooting against your soft, but hard hitting berserker line. A bunch of flying large cavalry heroes can do objective taking late game. Lots of targets for ferocious charge. No pathfinder is a big issue though, and you are not nimble. The chariot line getting wavered might also be a common issue, even with the captain to buff a couple regiments a bit.

Overall, there are some units and builds that still look playable at a fairly high level, but in general, KoM & Rhordia seem to have slipped a bit downwards in the meta. They do have a lot of normal infantry units, which are now harder to play than ever IMO, and they lack the new style of powerful auras etc. which takes otherwise mediocre units into really good territory. I hope 4th edition swings some power back to infantry, or just reduces points for non-phalanx, slow infantry across the board, so you at least can get more stuff to support the poor bloody infantry. With something like a 10-15% cost reduction, I think a lot more of the slow infantry units would suddenly look playable again.

My short list of the best KoM / Rhordia units:

  • General on winged beast (KoM)
  • Flying beast cav (KoM)
  • Ballista (KoM)
  • Wizard on pegasus (both)
  • Pikemen (both)
  • Honour guard (Rhordia)
  • Dogs of war (Rhordia)
  • Duke Hetronburg (Rhordia)

What do you think? Are there other archetypes that makes it worth going for KoM / Rhordia in a competitive setting? Or should we all jump ship for those super cheap phoenixes over in Basilea?

3 thoughts on “Are kingdoms of men playable anymore?

  1. Over the last year, quite a few Kingdoms of Men armies have cropped up in the US Mid-Atlantic scene, which means we get them here in the Northeast when those guys go a-raiding 😛 All of them are flying circus style, entirely on the back of beast cav hordes, winged beasts and cheapo peg wizards. As for Rhordia, I usually see them once a year at one tournament, but the Rhordia players from 2E largely transitioned their armies to Brothermark or flirted with Men.

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    1. Yep, the flying circus is clearly a very competitive build. It is also not something any of the people playing KoM in my local meta would want to play 😀

      It would be great if lines of infantry worked better. I think the easiest fix is to adjust non-phalanx infantry to be cheaper.

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